I was really kinda waiting to see you to clear things up with this comic strip ever since I started reading it yesterday. Religion and science don’t, nor should they ever harmonize with each other. Science has evolution, but Religion has creation–as to be expected, both sides have their flaws.
From what I’ve been taught so far, evolution states that billions of years ago, we’ve come out of nowhere, evolving up from tiny bacteria into Eukaryotic cells, then multi-cellular organisms, eventually into apes and humans. What I don’t see is where these bacteria came from. Nothing is all that nothing can create, so I can’t see how it’s at all possible.
Then there’s creation. Creation (as far as the Bible goes) states that God created the heavens, the earth, all of it’s plants and animals, and man and woman in his own image (Genesis 1 & 2). Everything came to be in seven days from an omnipotent, omnipresent being that’s always been there; however, to many people he is never physically seen, heard or felt. This leads people to believe he doesn’t exist, and nobody can know for sure if he does, because God is a being that can’t be scientifically proven or disproven. Religion is not science, it’s spiritual.
This is why you can’t disprove religion with science, or disregard science as useless just because there might be a God out there who’s created everything. Both science and religion are two completely different things–you can’t play chess on a monopoly board. This is only my view on the two subjects though, which is why I am accepting of both.
The thing is, the bacteria didn’t come from nothing. Study Abiogenesis (study of how life began) and you’ll see. Even today there’s quasi life like viruses and protein fragments called prions. It’s fascinating.
Science disproves religion, eg we know today tht humans evolved, so did other animals, the earth was not formed in 7 days, it is billions of years old, and it’s not flat, or the center of the universe. But I do agree religion is not science, and they are two different things.
I will probably have to study abiogenesis someday, But I still doubt that that’s the way life began. If we came to be the way that evolution and other such theories say we have, then we happened by chance. We would have to be EXTREMELY lucky beings if we really think so, because if this is really the reason we exist, it’s likely that the chances were 1 – 1,000,000,000 that life this complex just happened from bacteria somehow forming together in the exact way to make life possible, and forming in this way numerous times. Besides, you eventually have to trace back from these bacteria to find out where they came from, and I’ve heard of us coming from crystals and extraterrestrial life from the mouths of professional scientists themselves… it doesn’t really seem plausible to me, but it doesn’t mean that it can’t possibly be the truth. The way I see it, the scientific explanation for how life came to be is more farfetched than being made by an intelligent designer.
Amino acids have been found in meteorites. An essential building block to create life. Also, water has been found in the salt in them, as well as ice. . The rocks were found in South America.
In my opinion, I feel that religion is entirely based upon your family and where you are born. Indoctrination at a young age plays a large role. I encourage families to raise their children as free-thinkers and to let them make a decision. I was brought to church every sunday growing up, taken to catholic ed. classes, and all I could think about, where are the dinosaurs and how does santa do it? lol. Santa and the Easter bunny, genius and horrible at the same time.
San,
You should read up on deep sea hydrothermal vents. They are most likely the birthplace of life on Earth. The problem with things like this, the very complicated sciences like physics and chemistry, is that without a lot of background knowledge, explanations for some things can sound very farfetched.
As far as the “intelligent design” thing goes, you should study some anatomy. Even a basic knowledge of human anatomy should remove any ideas that we were “created.”
San,
I see where you’re coming from (I myself am a recovering ex-Christian) but do yourself the favour of researching the subject further before posting comments on the internet.
I don’t mean to be hatin’ on you and I don’t want to disrespect your views. All I’m saying is that you will never convince someone else on the internet of your views, just like I will never convince you of my views. But what I can convince you is to broaden your knowledge.
Now I don’t pretend to know everything there is to know about evolution or abiogenesis but I try my best to educate myself. Therefore I urge you to educate yourself as well. I can see from your posts you hold some common misconceptions that could lead you to the wrong conclusions. Hopefully with time you will realise this, as I have. You see I too used to believe what you believe now.
Maybe you’ll come to the same conclusion I did, maybe you won’t. It doesn’t really matter. All that matters is that you get the facts and theories straight. You are then free to draw your own conclusions if you wish.
I just feel that you are now where I was a few years ago and I understand your point of view. (I understand, in hindsight, where I was wrong and therefore where I think you are wrong). I apologize if this sounds condescending, that is not my intent. I only wish for you to “see the light” and understand why the overwhelming majority of scientists reject the creationist fable and accept evolution.
you mean ‘hear, hear’, ‘here here’ is just nonsense.. this is the first i’ve seen of this comic strip tho and i quite like it, very succinct, exactly what a comic strip should be.. and i’ve been saying that for years, that science and religion are mutually irreconcilable.. they have completely different methods, different purposes, different uses .. if there really is a god, an extra-cosmic world and so forth, then they would have to be experienced, and there may be some ‘spiritual scientists’ out there (shamans, prophets &c.) who may have explored these worlds, but their reported experiences can’t be tested or replicated in a controlled environment (that is unless terrence mckenna’s hypothesis, that the world encountered under the influence of DMT can be visited by anybody and is a world as real and coherent as the one of ordinary consensual experience, turns out to be correct)
October 12th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Just nail the square block of wood over the round hole. Simple! Appropriate!
October 12th, 2009 at 7:03 am
haha, most of your comic strips make me laugh, but this one is genius lol
November 12th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I was really kinda waiting to see you to clear things up with this comic strip ever since I started reading it yesterday. Religion and science don’t, nor should they ever harmonize with each other. Science has evolution, but Religion has creation–as to be expected, both sides have their flaws.
From what I’ve been taught so far, evolution states that billions of years ago, we’ve come out of nowhere, evolving up from tiny bacteria into Eukaryotic cells, then multi-cellular organisms, eventually into apes and humans. What I don’t see is where these bacteria came from. Nothing is all that nothing can create, so I can’t see how it’s at all possible.
Then there’s creation. Creation (as far as the Bible goes) states that God created the heavens, the earth, all of it’s plants and animals, and man and woman in his own image (Genesis 1 & 2). Everything came to be in seven days from an omnipotent, omnipresent being that’s always been there; however, to many people he is never physically seen, heard or felt. This leads people to believe he doesn’t exist, and nobody can know for sure if he does, because God is a being that can’t be scientifically proven or disproven. Religion is not science, it’s spiritual.
This is why you can’t disprove religion with science, or disregard science as useless just because there might be a God out there who’s created everything. Both science and religion are two completely different things–you can’t play chess on a monopoly board. This is only my view on the two subjects though, which is why I am accepting of both.
December 17th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
San
The thing is, the bacteria didn’t come from nothing. Study Abiogenesis (study of how life began) and you’ll see. Even today there’s quasi life like viruses and protein fragments called prions. It’s fascinating.
Science disproves religion, eg we know today tht humans evolved, so did other animals, the earth was not formed in 7 days, it is billions of years old, and it’s not flat, or the center of the universe. But I do agree religion is not science, and they are two different things.
December 19th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Velox
I will probably have to study abiogenesis someday, But I still doubt that that’s the way life began. If we came to be the way that evolution and other such theories say we have, then we happened by chance. We would have to be EXTREMELY lucky beings if we really think so, because if this is really the reason we exist, it’s likely that the chances were 1 – 1,000,000,000 that life this complex just happened from bacteria somehow forming together in the exact way to make life possible, and forming in this way numerous times. Besides, you eventually have to trace back from these bacteria to find out where they came from, and I’ve heard of us coming from crystals and extraterrestrial life from the mouths of professional scientists themselves… it doesn’t really seem plausible to me, but it doesn’t mean that it can’t possibly be the truth. The way I see it, the scientific explanation for how life came to be is more farfetched than being made by an intelligent designer.
December 25th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Amino acids have been found in meteorites. An essential building block to create life. Also, water has been found in the salt in them, as well as ice.
. The rocks were found in South America.
In my opinion, I feel that religion is entirely based upon your family and where you are born. Indoctrination at a young age plays a large role. I encourage families to raise their children as free-thinkers and to let them make a decision. I was brought to church every sunday growing up, taken to catholic ed. classes, and all I could think about, where are the dinosaurs and how does santa do it? lol. Santa and the Easter bunny, genius and horrible at the same time.
April 8th, 2010 at 8:34 am
San
u r funny!
May 5th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
San,
You should read up on deep sea hydrothermal vents. They are most likely the birthplace of life on Earth. The problem with things like this, the very complicated sciences like physics and chemistry, is that without a lot of background knowledge, explanations for some things can sound very farfetched.
As far as the “intelligent design” thing goes, you should study some anatomy. Even a basic knowledge of human anatomy should remove any ideas that we were “created.”
May 19th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
San,
I see where you’re coming from (I myself am a recovering ex-Christian) but do yourself the favour of researching the subject further before posting comments on the internet.
I don’t mean to be hatin’ on you and I don’t want to disrespect your views. All I’m saying is that you will never convince someone else on the internet of your views, just like I will never convince you of my views. But what I can convince you is to broaden your knowledge.
Now I don’t pretend to know everything there is to know about evolution or abiogenesis but I try my best to educate myself. Therefore I urge you to educate yourself as well. I can see from your posts you hold some common misconceptions that could lead you to the wrong conclusions. Hopefully with time you will realise this, as I have. You see I too used to believe what you believe now.
Maybe you’ll come to the same conclusion I did, maybe you won’t. It doesn’t really matter. All that matters is that you get the facts and theories straight. You are then free to draw your own conclusions if you wish.
I just feel that you are now where I was a few years ago and I understand your point of view. (I understand, in hindsight, where I was wrong and therefore where I think you are wrong). I apologize if this sounds condescending, that is not my intent. I only wish for you to “see the light” and understand why the overwhelming majority of scientists reject the creationist fable and accept evolution.
Peace
November 18th, 2010 at 7:23 pm
you mean ‘hear, hear’, ‘here here’ is just nonsense.. this is the first i’ve seen of this comic strip tho and i quite like it, very succinct, exactly what a comic strip should be.. and i’ve been saying that for years, that science and religion are mutually irreconcilable.. they have completely different methods, different purposes, different uses .. if there really is a god, an extra-cosmic world and so forth, then they would have to be experienced, and there may be some ‘spiritual scientists’ out there (shamans, prophets &c.) who may have explored these worlds, but their reported experiences can’t be tested or replicated in a controlled environment (that is unless terrence mckenna’s hypothesis, that the world encountered under the influence of DMT can be visited by anybody and is a world as real and coherent as the one of ordinary consensual experience, turns out to be correct)