That’s because you’re trying to compare two different kinds of knowledge. The stick might give knowledge attributed to nature. Religion – things attributed to those other than nature or the natural world.
lol! I like your name. No, I mean the real world. Religion speaks of things such as truth and moral value and reality. All that is real need not be natural.
Usually I would not ridicule or name-call – but in your case, I think an exception is in order. If I thought that you’d crack open your tiny pea brain skull for even a moment, I’d go to the ends of the earth to explain it to you…. But you know what they say – pearls before swine, eh?
So here it is:
@Theolocus, you are a sniveling coward. You are so unimaginably afraid of reality that you have to make one up to comfort and soothe your shaky hands. Like a little child that’s afraid of the dark who cannot sleep without a light on. Was that you when you were little? Did you just never grow out of that?
But it’s even worse than that. Not only are you unwilling to face reality, you are too stupid and /or lazy to make one up on your own. Easy answers from your *insert sky fairy fantasy book here* is all you’ll ever need. Right?
And so, you’ll slip quietly between your sheets every night, thinking you’re happy. But deep down, quaking at the real fear. The fear that you never even lived while you were here. And for once, you’ll be right.
wow.. i don’t believe i’ve ever seen a more venomous example of prejudice in my life.. now correct me if i’m wrong here, and if i’m butting into a long-standing argument about which i don’t know the first thing, please.. but it seems to me as if that theolocus guy was just saying that there are some things you can explain with reference to raw facts, but there are other things in our experience that require poetry, or mythology, or religious symbolism to express ..
okay so for example, compare the darwinian explanation for the descent, (or ascent, whichever way you prefer to look at it), of man, with the adam and eve myth in genesis.. or the prometheus myth .. (as far as my understanding of those myths goes) all three explanations describe the exact same idea, but approach it from different angles.. the adam and eve myth, as far as i understand it, explains the transition, from amoral animals to humans, using the ‘tree of the knowledge of good and evil’ (trees, according to jung at least, represent a drawn-out process of evolution or development.. psychic.. and possibly also biological) as the symbol for this process.. and now man has the responsibility that comes with the massive frontal lobe with which he can understand the difference between ‘good’ and ‘evil’ .. this basically describes, in poetic prose, the same thing that’s expressed by the summary statement ‘gradually, over many generations, these small african apes became large-brained, upright walking, language-using, hunting apes’ ..
the facts are the same in either case (of course they are, they’re facts, nothing ever changes there, whichever way you look at them) .. but the myth explains the facts in terms that are more relevant to human experience.. it has absolutely nothing to do with fear, or cowardice, and i have no idea why the last guy thought he ought to go off on a rant about that.. far as i can tell he was directing that at the wrong person .. talk to a priest, they’re a far more appropriate target for that kind of thing
Wow, Atheiolocus. I have nothing to add to the discussion save to say that it is individuals like you that give people who choose lifestyles and thought-patterns away from traditional religious practices/cultures a bad name.
April 6th, 2010 at 7:26 am
Hey- I think you should submit this image to be a t-shirt. I would wear it. I love it!
April 6th, 2010 at 7:59 am
Now if only this was a bigger file – it would easily make my desktop background…
April 7th, 2010 at 8:08 am
That’s because you’re trying to compare two different kinds of knowledge. The stick might give knowledge attributed to nature. Religion – things attributed to those other than nature or the natural world.
April 13th, 2010 at 9:25 am
Religion
April 14th, 2010 at 1:15 am
@Theolocus: ‘Religion
May 18th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
lol! I like your name. No, I mean the real world. Religion speaks of things such as truth and moral value and reality. All that is real need not be natural.
September 25th, 2010 at 3:13 am
Usually I would not ridicule or name-call – but in your case, I think an exception is in order. If I thought that you’d crack open your tiny pea brain skull for even a moment, I’d go to the ends of the earth to explain it to you…. But you know what they say – pearls before swine, eh?
So here it is:
@Theolocus, you are a sniveling coward. You are so unimaginably afraid of reality that you have to make one up to comfort and soothe your shaky hands. Like a little child that’s afraid of the dark who cannot sleep without a light on. Was that you when you were little? Did you just never grow out of that?
But it’s even worse than that. Not only are you unwilling to face reality, you are too stupid and /or lazy to make one up on your own. Easy answers from your *insert sky fairy fantasy book here* is all you’ll ever need. Right?
And so, you’ll slip quietly between your sheets every night, thinking you’re happy. But deep down, quaking at the real fear. The fear that you never even lived while you were here. And for once, you’ll be right.
December 12th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
wow.. i don’t believe i’ve ever seen a more venomous example of prejudice in my life.. now correct me if i’m wrong here, and if i’m butting into a long-standing argument about which i don’t know the first thing, please.. but it seems to me as if that theolocus guy was just saying that there are some things you can explain with reference to raw facts, but there are other things in our experience that require poetry, or mythology, or religious symbolism to express ..
okay so for example, compare the darwinian explanation for the descent, (or ascent, whichever way you prefer to look at it), of man, with the adam and eve myth in genesis.. or the prometheus myth .. (as far as my understanding of those myths goes) all three explanations describe the exact same idea, but approach it from different angles.. the adam and eve myth, as far as i understand it, explains the transition, from amoral animals to humans, using the ‘tree of the knowledge of good and evil’ (trees, according to jung at least, represent a drawn-out process of evolution or development.. psychic.. and possibly also biological) as the symbol for this process.. and now man has the responsibility that comes with the massive frontal lobe with which he can understand the difference between ‘good’ and ‘evil’ .. this basically describes, in poetic prose, the same thing that’s expressed by the summary statement ‘gradually, over many generations, these small african apes became large-brained, upright walking, language-using, hunting apes’ ..
the facts are the same in either case (of course they are, they’re facts, nothing ever changes there, whichever way you look at them) .. but the myth explains the facts in terms that are more relevant to human experience.. it has absolutely nothing to do with fear, or cowardice, and i have no idea why the last guy thought he ought to go off on a rant about that.. far as i can tell he was directing that at the wrong person .. talk to a priest, they’re a far more appropriate target for that kind of thing
December 14th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Wow, Atheiolocus. I have nothing to add to the discussion save to say that it is individuals like you that give people who choose lifestyles and thought-patterns away from traditional religious practices/cultures a bad name.
What a shame.